Very interesting Jon…

One thing I must add… If you have never tasted success on the web or maybe don’t really understand this Internet Monster, then a book or product of a sort can be a great help to lose ones fear of the unknown. Because that is all it is about, fear of what we do not know.

Personally I buy something every now and again, big and small course. Sometimes I cannot afford this, but the “maybe this is the solution” idea creeps up on me.

I am now on the, screw it, let’s do it page. I have read enough stuff and tried enough quick methods.

Even with all my reading and searching there still is no simple method to follow to earn even a small income stream from the web. Or maybe I am completely missing something…

This would be great if it was true and someone could point it out

Thanks
Nicholas

Nicholas, I really do think those books have their place, almost always there is great information in them. But I am realizing that it isn’t lack of information that holds us back; it’s something deeper than that, something that nothing we cold find in a book will really help with.

“Even with all my reading and searching there still is no simple method to follow to earn even a small income stream from the web.”

I can tell you for a fact that it is easily possible. The problem, for me at least, is that there are so many methods that it is easy to get distracted and move from one to another. I believe this happens because all the methods require certain “success skills” which I identify primarily as the ability to experience discomfort and loss of hope and yet still continue to move forward in a straight line.

Jon

I agree with your statement wholeheartedly. There is something deeper, something more profound, to most this is a wide chasm. Not because it is a real chasm, but because we think it is. I am a deep and strong believer in the greatness within each individual, if only everybody believed with conviction in the unique value they bring.

According to the many books and courses I have read, there are many different ways to earn a living from the web. And you are right in stating that we require certain “success skills” and a bullish attitude to our personal success. That was well put.

I also agree with your statements Kyle. Break the cycle and focus on adding true value, the rest will happen.

Jon, if I may ask. Which streams have you had the most sustainable success with over the years? I work in a small team, my focus is to implement sustainable web businesses for older people. They tend to be very afraid of the web. What I want to do is develop a process people in old age homes can use to build a web business, this is a great passion of mine. The old ones have so much awesome knowledge and they are ignored by society. They have amazing lessons and nobody is listening. The web can break this habit and bring back the days when we listened to the counsel of the elder.

Thus my reason for asking, because it will not be a sustainable process if earning some money is not involved.

All the best!

@Nicholas, sounds like you have a massive information product factory at your fingertips. I’d be interviewing these folks, with either a pen and paper or audio recorder and setting up systems to sell the interviews as information products. There must be a great wealth of information in all of their experiences.
You will probably need to do a bit of educating to get them to realize the value of things that they take for granted. That seems to be a problem for most when they think of creating their own products.

@Meister, I made it to just over $6k at my peak month doing pretty much the same as you, but I couldn’t stomach the feeling of being in an arms race with the search engines. It became clear to me that it wasn’t the right spirit of a business for me, even though the money was good. Ironically I didn’t purchase any ebooks or info to do that, I just saw one forum post that ‘clicked’ for me and I everything else I figured out on my own.

I guess then, there are a couple of measures of a sustainable business: one is the money it puts in your pocket and the other is what affect it causes in your heart. To be really a great long term project both have to be moving in a good direction.

@Nicholas, I’m too lazy to find it again. It was on the Rich Dad forums, but the “light bulb” moment was triggered by a simple idea that in order to make money from AdSense, which is what I was doing at the time, (which I highly don’t recommend as a business model) the key was to:

…provide crappy content, so that people would click on the ads to find something that more satisfied what they were searching for…

It wasn’t so much that I implemented that strategy directly but, based on my reflection of what that fact really meant, I really started to understand what making money online was all about and the different structures that could be employed to be effective.

@Jon

You wrote:
“But I am realizing that it isn’t lack of information that holds us back; it’s something deeper than that, something that nothing we cold find in a book will really help with.”

cold find? !!!!

That’s exactly it – many of us remain in “warm find” with a job b/c the bills need paying and our bellies want filling.

I suspect a lot of those folks who buy into those “make 6-figures with ebooks and adwords mega empires” stories” are still in denial about moving from “warm find” to “hot find”

And so they oscillate between cold and warm…but rarely hot. That’s too uncomfortable to bear for long…

Anyone hot out there?